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Really extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that factor since when I needed to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via each in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that wasn't sludged up actually terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a couple of concerns of these vans, but I I'm plainly not mosting likely to appear and say one is better than the various other. So if that's what you're searching for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the distinctions in between these 2 brand names? Bernie: Well, they're essentially the same car.
They appear to be a bit much more utilized because area, yet, you understand, those are several of the uses, however they're basically the very same category of vehicle. Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. What concerns do you see in between these two automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. Let's speak regarding engine and really just to specify that the model years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I imply, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has been around because, you know, around that time too. So we're not going to obtain back into, right into the earlier things. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more preferred and I wouldn't really recommend a V6 engine.
You understand, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with impact to these engines, because they didn't have enough threading in the spark plug, which triggered troubles. And commonly that would occur when you could be in a 15 traveler bus going up a hill with a tons of people and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system pops out and you're stranded.
If you're getting anything from most likely 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to replace the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, because I'm discussing issues, it's a much more sophisticated engine. Overhead camera, so you're getting more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex design with press rods.
They're simply truly rather excellent, resilient, solid engines. You know, being a van, obviously, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is more complex due to the fact that you've reached get rid of that cover and enter maintenance in odd ways. Yet things like trigger plugs last a dreadful very long time, so they do not need to be replaced really often.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back before the 2000 design year.
You know, that's still available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're transporting extremely heavy tons. Diesels require to be worked. That's actually the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not know, I'm just mosting likely to state a plumbing technician and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would be a truly good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it looks like the diesels are, they appear to have much less problems in vans than they perform in the vehicles. Possibly since they aren't functioned so hard, however when points happen, they're really pricey to deal with. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and details regarding diesels, especially the Fords.
You truly require to assume two times about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for function, make certain that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the objective that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is virtually restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just talking regarding kind of a straight, routine cargo van right here. Look at your objective, your usage, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you make the decision.
Something that we have not discussed here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what design, they're available ever from half bunch to one heap chassis and really some of the exploded view vans are really a lot more long lasting, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Typically the drive trains, you understand, I find them to be quite much equivalent. Mark: So allow's talk regarding steering and suspension. Just how do they compare? Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this set. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less steering linkage involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's possibly last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you understand, the steering affiliation is a lot less challenging, so there's much less parts and much less products to put on out.
The experience in a Ford is probably a little bit much more truck like but I do not know if you 'd actually ever before truly saw a difference between both. It seems like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are rather a lot the same, however I will say that it appears like with Fords, the method they develop their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be changed nearly whenever you do a brake task.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake work. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly bad doors. I imply, the moving doors were crap, you recognize, actually badly built. In fact, I would certainly say that if you are also checking out something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their vehicles as a whole truly took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a whole lot of stuff where the brakes for example would certainly not last long in any way.
Yet if we're looking at the 2000 newer, I mean, I would certainly state they're both most likely quite much matching in high quality, fit and coating, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, obviously we'll have better consultations than the cargo vans. I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a little more than the other.